Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Dano: No Military Involvement in Georgia-Russia Conflict

After the coin flip, I argue this week against U.S. military involvement in the Georgia-Russia clashes.

President Bush and other world leaders have demanded that Russia cease military operations within the sovereign borders of Georgia, which declared its independence from the Soviet bloc in 1991, following the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Georgia is now a democratic state, and is a strong U.S. ally. Despite strong condemnations by the Bush Administration, the presidential candidates, European nations, and others, however, the U.S. cannot and should not consider direct military assistance to Georgia. The reasons are many.

First, from a strictly "moral high-ground" point of view, the fact is that Georgian President Saakashvili sparked the conflict himself by initiating attacks in Tskhinvali, the capital of the breakaway region of South Ossetia. The Georgian Government has long tried to bring South Ossetia and the other breakaway region, Abkhazia, back into Georgia, while the Russians have been seeking to annex South Ossetia and to support the independence of Abkhazia. Toward these goals, Russia has maintained a military presence in South Ossetia, and has granted its citizens Russian passports. Most analysts agree that Saakashvili's decision to send troops into South Ossetia was ill-advised (see http://voanews.com/english/2008-08-11-voa63.cfm). Georgia had nowhere near the odds of victory that David had against Goliath. Moreover, Georgia did not consult with its allies in advance of the incursion, nor did it seek backing from other countries to supplement its military effectiveness. It would not have garnered such support in any case. Despite this, President Bush stopped short of scolding Saakashvili. Bush also declined to defend the Georgian action, choosing instead to condemn Russia's response as "disproportionate." The president's characterization of the response as disproportionate tacitly implies that some more limited Russian military response would have been appropriate. At the risk of making us sound arrogant (and hypocritical), status as a U.S. ally carries with it a responsibility to conduct internal and external affairs in such a way as to garner our approval. Put quite simply, "We've got your back, but only if you're right." The hypocrisy here, obviously, is that we've dug our moral high-ground down to a nearly bottomless crevasse with our actions in Iraq (invading and occupying a sovereign nation under false pretenses); torture of war prisoners and terror suspects in violation of the Geneva Convention and our own laws; brazen political corruption; and even the Administration's deliberate constrictions on Constitutional freedoms for our own citizens. But two wrongs don't make a right, so the adage, "do as I say, and not as I do," seems particularly apropos.


Second, engaging Russia with force is a no-win prospect--not just for the U.S., but for the European Union as well. Russia supplies much of Europe with oil and other resources. For instance, Germany gets 42% of its natural gas from Russia (see , http://voanews.com/english/2008-08-11-voa63.cfm). Any military action against the superpower would most assuredly be met with very damaging economic sanctions against our allies, and, by extension if not directly, against us. You think energy prices are high, now? Clearly, the United States has a vested interest in NOT poking the bear.


Finally, the U.S. simply doesn't have the military assets to engage Russia, or any other superpower. According to the Department of Defense, out of just over a million active duty military personnel, only about 122,000 are not currently deployed--either in Iraq, Afghanistan, or at other posts from which we cannot afford to redeploy them (e.g., Germany, Korea, Bosnia, and NATO attachments). For more on this, see http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/index.html. Moreover, out of the 122,000, only 36,000 are ground forces (the other 86,000 are Naval personnel). Even if we had all our military might available, we would be fighting against the second most powerful military on Earth, and, arguably, a formidable foe whose technology and training are not far behind our own. In a ground war, Russia has nearly twice as many armored vehicles, and almost six times as much artillery assets as the U.S. (see http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries_comparison_detail.asp). Obviously, with all assets free, we could not manage a unilateral military engagement, so these numbers do not represent the balance--inclusive of allied coalition support--of military power that would be in theater if we got involved. But we and our allies would very likely suffer catastrophic losses, even in a conventional war with Russia. We cannot afford to put more of our soldiers' lives on the line for this cause.


Diplomatic measures are required in this conflict. Between the U.S. and European nations, much can be done to pressure Russia into scaling back their military operations. Russia has been seeking admission to the World Trade Organization, and is a sitting member of the G8, an informal group of leaders from eight of the world's most powerful industrialized nations that meets annually to discuss issues of global import. Russia's actions are violations of international law, and Russia risks expulsion from the G8 and exclusion from WTO membership if it does not ratchet down it's operations. This is where the power of the U.S. and our allies rests.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't see how we could possibly consider involving our military troops in any other conflict while we are using (and losing) so many of our young people in Iraq. Even if we came face to face with a conflict which deserved our intervention we don't have enough military might left to share with the rest of the world. You nailed it, Dan.

Dano said...

Thanks, Val. I knew I could count on your support!

Reed Mahoney said...

Well said, but I can't fathom why you would suggest that, because President Bush said the Russian response was "disproportionate", he was tacitly condoning any military response at all. His statements all indicate that he is appalled by Russia's crossing the border of Georgia for the sake of these two regions which, regardless of their political leaning, are still part of Georgia. And while it would seem that it was indeed ill-advised for Saakashvili to send armed troops into these provinces, we still aren't clear as to what the provocation was to incite this action. We do know, as you pointed out, that these Georgian citizens have Russian passports. They can, therefore, go to Russia anytime they choose. Their passport status does not, however, give Russia the right to come to them, across a sovereign border, anytime it chooses.
And your NATO argument? Well, according to NATO itself, Georgian troops are working side by side with NATO troops in Afghanistan. Georgia is operating under an "Individual Partnership Action Plan" or "IPAP", which "lays out the detailed program of cooperation between Georgia and NATO." In short, Georgia is doing just as Poland and Hungary did, taking the steps required to be inducted into the treaty organization. And Russia resents that immensely.
Look, I don't want to commit anymore troops anywhere right now. But if I had my way, most of our combat troops would leave Iraq soon, an area where we had no mandate to invade and an invalid reason provided by faulty or fraudulent intelligence. And in order to prevent further Soviet-style Russian aggression and expansion, I'd use advisors/specialists and, as I said, air support to protect our democracy-loving allies. Most importantly, freedom has been proclaimed in Georgia. We cannot stand by and let it be snatched away.

Dano said...

Reed, I think saying that the military response was disproportionate clearly suggests that there was a more proportionate military response that could have (and should have) been undertaken.

Russia did not "cross a sovereign border" in order to respond to the Georgian military attacks in South Ossetia - they were already there as a peacekeeping force, and no country that I'm aware of had a problem with their presence there for that purpose. Russia, in their role as peacekeepers, claims that their military response was necessary to protect the peace in the region. The argument being made against Russia by most world leaders is that they should have contained their military response to the breakaway province, and should not have trekked further into the sovereign territory of Georgia.

As far as the NATO thing, it doesn't matter that Georgian troops have partnered with and fought beside NATO troops; NATO cannot, by charter, lead a military action in a non-NATO member country. As I suggested to you in response to your post, we can argue for fast-tracking Georgia's membership, but until we do it, NATO's hands are tied.

J.T. Twilley said...

Dano, please, peacekeepers? What a bunch of propoganda. You know better than that. Peacekeepers is another word for armed soilders. By your same arguement the U.N. should send "peacekeepers" to the region to "keep the peace" (ie. fight a war).

I will say you both did a great job with this. The best effort by far on both your parts. You both hit it out of the park as far as debating your points strongly in your original posts.

The provocation of the Russians in South Ossetia cannot be ignored. It is paramount to the reason for Georgia's military action there. Imagine if the governor of New Mexico was a radical believer that New Mexico should be returned to the Mexican government. And over the course of two terms, the influence afforded his position grew to gain weight. Then lets say the governor declares New Mexico's independance from the United States. Meanwhile, a weak president either doesn't think its that big of a deal, or laughs, says things like, "Don't be silly, nation. Of course New Mexico is still part of the United States."

Now while the passport analogy doesn't work in this case, lets say the Mexican gov't bestowed upon residents of New Mexico powers to, oh, vote in Mexico's presidential election. Then Mexico sent "peacekeepers" into New Mexico.

Then a U.S. president with more backbone came into power and said, "That's enough." Get out of our country Mexico, New Mexico is ours. When Mexico says "no" do you not think we're going in guns blazing to get the Mexican Army out of New Mexico (BTW, this isn't far fetched from what is occuring now in regards to members of the Mexican Army being armed and on our soil, but that's another issue).

Point is we'd do exactly what Georgia did if it happened to us. So to buy Russia's Soviet-like propoganda that says Georgia instigated it is just not the full story.

Russia had numerous motives to undermine Georgia. And has been preparing this for months. See the following link for an article from early May that also includes many other links with history of this conflict: http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0506/p99s01-duts.html

Dano said...

j.t. twilley, Thanks for the compliments this week.

"Peacekeepers" is not my invention. Every government on earth recognized and seemed to accept, since the early 1990s, that Russia's armed troops in South Ossetia were filling the role of peacekeepers. But that is not a major point in my post. I brought it up only to suggest that the "crossing Georgia's sovereign borders" argument is lame, in that the actual crossing happened something like 15 years ago, and with the blessings of most of the world's nations. Moreover, for the bulk of that period, they have, indeed helped to stem violence in South Ossetia.

Having said that, let me say that I don't think for a minute what Russia is doing is okay. I'm quite certain they have imperialistic designs on South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and possibly Georgia and other former Soviet states. My argument was not that we shouldn't get involved at all, only that we can't use military force to effect changes.